[maxsilver]

> providing security for the business, the employees & the owner

The problem is that everything you've described only provides stability for the owner, and no one else. There's zero reason for an employee to believe money in your bank account somehow provides for their security -- even if you are honest and ethical and magically choose to do it, no one else ever does -- there is no way a reasonable person can believe the owner is just going to keep them on through hard times, just out of the goodness of their heart.

[mythrwy]

Not only stability for the owner. Stability for the business. Which is where the money for salaries comes from.

Owning a business for a number of years was a very eye opening experience and has made me a much better employee and I'm in agreement with OP.

[unethical_ban]

>even if you are honest and ethical and magically choose to do it, no one else ever does

That's right, literally no employer ever does right by their employees in tough times except for this one HN commenter.

Or to put it non sarcastic, it's entirely possible for an employer not to be a bastard, even if it is less common than the opposite.