[mlmonge]

I've had an eye on the Huawei Matebook X Pro on Swappa. My other eye is on the XPS, new from Amazon. The latter is certainly more expensive and yet, doesn't impress me as much as the Matebook. But as we all know, Huawei is not trusted much here lately in the U.S. Is this in fact another Chinese company that's best we avoid? I was considering starting an Ask HN just for Huawei given not much has been posted here on this topic for a couple of years now.

[6c737133]

with all due respect - lol

there isn't a fire capable of burning hot enough, to throw every huawei device into

just google the company man, it's a track record that's genuinely hard to believe

20190409 backdoored laptops - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-47800000

20190430 backdoored routers - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/apr/30/alleged-h...

20210813 alleged widespread IP theft from a pakistani tech firm, repackaged with backdoors, and sold back to the pakistani gov - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/apr/30/alleged-h...

[happymellon]

Yes I remember the router situation where they accidentally left telnet listening on the WAN.

I worked at Vodafone and all the routers get a security review, so it is highly doubtful that they left it in on purpose because they would have known that it would have been found. It was test engineering firmware that got left on some routers, and makes spurious claims even though in the article it points out that Vodafone didn't believe it was a backdoor.

And your first link talks about how someone appears to have added an additional chip to the design, which is unlikely to have come from Huawei. Sounds suspiciously similar to this

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-h...

Do you want a list of everything that Cisco (replace with your preferred networking manufacturer) messed up and claim that it's all malicious?

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/may/12/glenn-greenwal...

Tampering with these things is allegedly pretty simple.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/10/plant...

[aaaaaaaaata]

Besides the Wireguard incident, where has Netgate been a joke like the two being discussed here?

[happymellon]

Why "besides"?

I would say that the Wireguard issue is worse than the speculation that pre-production firmware on unreleased routers was backdooring as they actually shipped it.

Of the three links about Huawei, one is someone in India claiming IP theft, one where they made up a claim of backdooring which the original security researchers rejected that claim, and one where it appears that hardware may have been tampered at the manufacturing stage by Americans.

Not exactly smoking gun, Huawei are evil and want to steal your data. I don't trust them, but then I don't trust a lot of the networking providers to not be compromised by a state actor.

Otherwise, they are probably the best of the bunch, purely because of the stack being mostly BSD.

[throwaway12372]

they (or their previous entity) also routinely stole/steal intellectual property from us firms

at one point they were just straight ripping off cisco asrs, lucent gear, etc and presenting it as their own