[MuffinFlavored]

> it might very well be worth having that sit-down with your employer where you lay out exactly what will happen to their infrastructure when you leave.

I don't think threatening your current employer about how in-disposable you are and how they'll have production outages if you leave shows you're a very good teammate/employee/team player.

[bluefirebrand]

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but just in case

If you ever find yourself as a single point of failure at a company, and you feel you're underpaid, screw being a "good team player"

Adopt a "fuck you, pay me" attitude and get what you're worth or get out.

"Good team player" is how companies manipulate you into getting more value out of you than they are paying you for.

[fezfight]

As the single point of failure for a huge firm, I had to quit. They hired me back in 6 months at the numbers I wanted. They didn't have to, but they also didn't really care. They gambled I wouldn't leave. They were wrong. You have to be willing to leave. 'Fuck it, fuck you, fuck this' are words to live by, in my opinion.

Edit: this will not always work. And you might burn bridges. Be warned.

Edit2: Also dont actually say fuck you, that's internal monologue. Stay professional!

[bluefirebrand]

> 'Fuck it, fuck you, fuck this' are words to live by, in my opinion.

Agreed. Life's much too short to get screwed by a job for a long time.

[MrWiffles]

This is a few weeks away from happening to my current employer. They've been gambling that I wouldn't leave, would keep putting up with bullshit and massive underpayment.

As soon as a certain security clearance gets approved, they're in for one hell of a shock.

[nend]

OP is trying to get out but hasn't been able to. Adopting a "fuck you, pay me" attitude when you have no ability to leave is not a smart move.

Absolutely they should be somewhere they're more valued, but should be patient while they work out how to do that.

[worldwideants]

The argument seems very all or nothing, being increasingly visible about interviewing elsewhere might get the employer to take actions that help the OP prepare for a new job.

[isbvhodnvemrwvn]

Perhaps not in the way the OP wants though.

[MuffinFlavored]

> "Good team player" is how companies manipulate you into getting more value out of you than they are paying you for.

How is this any different than the recent uprising of the r/antiwork movement?

[throwaway923408]

Not that I've ever had experience with an aggressive move like that. But it doesn't really seem like their employer respects them, and sucking up to them at this point seems counterproductive.

[goshx]

I agree that it shouldn’t sound like a threat, but there is no team. He’s the only person. There is only one way for the employer to feel the pain.

[owow123]

This isn't true.

I've got one person under me and have done for 3-5 years.

Most have enjoyed working under me (so I understand it), most resignations have been for bigger opportunities / bigger cities / bigger money (1 out of 4, and TBH I missed they wanted more money - this was my fault).

My current "report" seems very happy (though I expect them to leave soon, not for money but they are far more interested in another industry and tech challenges that come with it).

[nixgeek]

One person under you for 3-5 years with a four attritions in that period (this latest one being Person #5?) constitutes an incredibly high attrition rate. That’s worth introspecting on. Average tenure of under a year?!

[1over137]

It seems likely someone managing a handful of employees doesn't decide salaries. If his unders left mostly for salary reasons, I don't see how that reflects badly on him.

[goshx]

If you leave, can this report take over and be successful?

[owow123]

No.

They could do infrastructure, kind off, not code - no chance (I like them as a person but they depend on me to teach them how to code)

Hire "younglings" (star-wars) is my remit.