[heavyset_go]

> A person whose title is 'Chief Engineer' and has a physics degree is also an engineer aka Elon therefore he is an engineer.

You mean the title Musk gave himself, like "Techno King"? Even Musk admits that his titles don't mean anything[1].

It's a real stretch to think someone calling themselves an engineer makes them an engineer.

There must be millions of people working with "software engineer" titles who aren't aware that they're actually engineers, too!

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/07/elon-musk-ceo-is-made-up-tit...

[bottlepalm]

Software engineers aren't actually engineers because they have degrees in computer science. Especially the kids who don't go to college and start their own companies giving themselves software engineering titles. Giving yourself the title automatically disqualifies you from being an engineer no matter all the things you accomplish.

Given there is no official definition and the definition is subjective, you pretty much can't win this argument.