[inferiorhuman]

10GBaseT is the wrong solution, period. As you've found out it runs hot (somehow I doubt all the fanless consumer trinkets are going to last very long). Not that Ubiquiti is a good example – even with their 1G kit they had issues with thermal management. Both the ER-X and ER-L ran hot enough to cook themselves (especially the early ones with the tiny SD cards). True to form my ER-Xs get flakey when it gets slightly warm. Fiber is the way forward and hopefully getting multi-gig connections to the home will start to bring the pricing on some of that kit down to reasonable levels.

FWIW I've also got Sonic's 10G offering and yeah it works well enough. Something is causing intermittent problems that I've not had with their ADSL or 1G fiber offerings – I'm starting to suspect the 1G TP-Link switch they tossed in. For now I just live with the periodic interruptions.

Edit: Certainly I'm not planning to upgrade any of my gear to 10G as I simply don't need the bandwidth and Sonic's offerings are really geared towards web browsing more than anything.

[dweekly]

In my extremely limited home 10G experience so far, SFP+ DAC modules have seemed relatively inexpensive with low(er) thermals than 10GbaseT (subjective SWAGs here, not detailed thermal measurements!) and are a great, cheap way to connect a desktop to a 10G switch. Kinda makes me fantasize about a laptop with an SFP+ slot, TBH...

I was admittedly just too chicken to wire my home with fiber (nervous about kinking it) so used plenum CAT-6A for my mid-length runs (~50ft). Perhaps there are classes of "tough fiber" for this use case?

I gotta say, I LOVE Sonic. $40/mo and I actually get 6gbps+ up, 6gbps+ down real measured throughput, and unmetered/unfiltered. Great support and a great CEO, Dane. Just wish I could pay a bit more for a static IP, like I did with AT&T Fiber.

[pxeboot]

> Both the ER-X and ER-L ran hot enough to cook themselves

I must have a different revision of the ER-X. Mine only runs slightly warm to the touch, running off of PoE and powering an AP.

[inferiorhuman]

So the last time I looked I only found one person complaining that their ER-X runs hot to the touch (plenty of "it seems kind of flakey" comments tho). Mine become unstable once the ambient temp gets much past 75 °F. The ER-L is well known to run hot to the touch at idle.

When I opened up one of my ER-Xs to get a the serial header I noticed that it had a much sloppier application of thermal compound than the one pictured in the instructions I looked at. I'd totally believe some units will be more reliable than others.

[azinman2]

> Sonic's offerings are really geared towards web browsing more than anything.

What do you mean by that? I fully saturate my 1G link for work all the time.

[inferiorhuman]

No static IP on fiber connections (like they promised initially), no native IPv6 (although maybe there is on the DSL products), outbound SMTP blocked. For a while there was a tool you could use to adjust your DSL profile to skew it towards upstream bandwidth, but that's since been dropped. No more m-bone access. Stuff like that.

Sonic's shifted from offering a full featured internet connection to a slightly neutered dumb web browsing pipe.