[actusual]

There's another angle here too...and that is whether the people who are having loans forgiven even received X number of dollars in value from their college experience. A LOT of these students did not, which is why students that got swindled into scam "universities" are top of the list for forgiveness.

[mikece]

This is an entirely different topic, but one where I'm sure we have a lot of agreement. I suspect a most people on HN could have gotten to where they are in their careers by starting at a computer trade school (with the exception of jobs where 'the piece of paper' is a requirement for some reason).