[samwillis]

We plan to, but not quite yet. The only thing keeping us on Heroku is the "point in time restore" for Postgres, once another platform (such as Render) has that we will probably make the switch.

Having had to use the point in time restore feature before, it's indispensable.

Just taken a look at Appliku as others have mentioned it (we are a Django app), that on DigitalOcean with their managed Postgres could be a strong option.

[mrkurt]

Heroku's Postgres is still very good.

If I were looking for "very good Postgres", I would go straight to Crunchy Bridge. I don't think a PaaS is going to get anywhere near that level soon (and I work on Fly.io, so I know we're not).

Building a good PaaS and building an amazing managed database service are two problems that overlap less than you think. The moment we can get Crunchy Bridge or someone at a similar level to run their DBs on our infrastructure is the moment we start using them for customer Postgres.

No one knows this yet, but we have managed Redis soft launched in our CLI. Fly + Upstash is a pretty good combo.

[jrochkind1]

Kind of becoming a sidebar, but I'm curious if Amazon RDS Postgres counts as "managed postgres"; or, more to the point, what something like Crunchy Bridge gets you over Amazon RDS.

(I have used neither Crunchy Bridge nor Amazon RDS, so this is an actual question, not a challenge! I have used Heroku postgres as well as self-hosted postgres)

[craigkerstiens]

Craig here from Crunchy. RDS is definitely in the spectrum of more managed, but I'd still say it's more of a spectrum. For instance to my knowledge AWS doesn't fully monitor your individual database for availability, much of their monitoring is more on a fleet/control plane level. There are cases I've heard of where your database is down and AWS simply doesn't know about it because it's not doing health checks against postgres itself. Not implying those cases are a common occurrence, but in a spectrum of how managed it is we definitely aim to be at the far end of how much we do for you on Crunchy Bridge.

Another big area is tooling we're building in to help app developers. Things like health reports for your database, built-in audit logs, simple SSO integration are just a few things that you now don't really have to think but can benefit heavily from. Overall we're a pretty big parallel to Heroku Postgres, with more to come (I wrote about some of that vision here - https://www.craigkerstiens.com/2022/05/18/unfinished-busines...).

[appliku]

Hey!

There is a heroku config vars sync, so you can keep using Heroku Postgres, but moving the app itself out of there.

Your vars will be in sync, so when heroku rotates credentials they will be quickly applied to your app deployed with Appliku

[gday2020]

Maybe Scalingo? They do have PITR. Very similar to Heroku. I plan to move to them in the near future (also Django app with Postgres).