[iokanuon]

>Humans can delay gratification for larger payouts later on, which if we could not consciously do then I personally would probably do nothing with my life besides the basic biologic urges and whatever gives me the strongest immediate dopamine hit.

That's basically living with ADHD - so about 2% to 7% of all people have a lot less free will than the rest.

[ianbutler]

I'm a physicalist, there's nothing in my view that says biological disorders can't affect the effectiveness of the software, free will must in my view be an effect provided by our bodies and a disorder can surely remove it.

Just as sure as if you were lobotomized, you'd lose free will.

Edit: Plus upon re reading this and not just giving a two second flippant response, you did not clearly read my reply (which I ironically did not then read yours correctly either). I was talking about the ability to prioritize desires, not free will itself on the part you quoted.

[iokanuon]

Just to be clear, I'm not trying to argue with you - just trying to share an observation from my own life.

The experience of the inner monologue in my brain not being able to control what the rest of my body is doing when not on meds sure does feel like a crippled down version of free will

[ianbutler]

Sorry that's fair, hard to tell sometimes on forums. Yeah that's absolutely valid and thanks for sharing your perspective.