[_joe]

OP lives in Rome, where the average driver mentality is somewhere between "need for speed" and "carmageddon".

Basically no one is ever willing to wait for anyone else, as OP's reasoning shows pretty adamantly.

Of course they're grossly incorrect.

[peoplefromibiza]

Worst drivers I've seen are not in Rome.

It used to be like that around 2000s, things have vastly improved here though.

Have you ever tried Barcelona or New York or Paris or Krakow or Milan or, god forbid it, Naples?

Prejudices are fun, but usually they are grossly incorrect.

Also as I've said, I drive very little (less than 2.000km/year) and cyclists in Rome are still from Rome. they are not Martians so their mentality must be the same of everybody else don't you think?

if romans are bad drivers, isn't it safe to assume they are also bad cyclists?

[vladvasiliu]

I haven't driven in Rome, but I've tried the North of Italy, in Aoste. I'm from Paris and drive / ride my motorbike here quite often [0].

The only time in my life when I felt people were out to get me was in Italy. They drove like absolute maniacs. And I was on a big motorbike, not a bicycle going at 10 kmph. The road was wide, too (outside a city), with very light traffic, but for some reason they really couldn't be bothered to move over to the other lane when overtaking. Weren't going particularly faster, either.

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[0] I'm not saying Paris is great, mind. I'd even say that in the last few years it has deteriorated a lot: whenever a light turns red, at least one person is guaranteed to run it.

[peoplefromibiza]

> The only time in my life when I felt people were out to get me was in Italy.

Of course, you're French!

In Aosta!

You usually forget how shitty your country has been.

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