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by notahacker
1403 days ago
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> Your time is best spent focusing on the sentences (30% of the book) that contain those 3000 words because they use almost all of the rest of the words. This seems to assume:
(i) that readers of a 300 page book in a foreign language (not typically a beginner task!) are choosing to do so primarily as a means to the end of learning/remembering unfamiliar words, and not because they want to understand the content of the book itself, develop their appreciation of literary phrasing, challenge themself etc., and (ii) that focusing on a [probably disjointed] subset of the sentences in the book won't deprive the reader of the necessary context to grok sentences even when the words are familiar.
I'm not sure either is generally true. Ultimately the alternative to using machine-selected sentences isolated from long form text for learning new words or fill-the-blanks exercises is using definitions and exercises specifically constructed to be accessible and relevant to language learners. The only obvious case where I can see the ML process generating more useful examples is if the language learners' needs are skewed heavily towards absorbing the sort of specialist technical/professional vocabulary conventional learning courses don't cover. I also think that picking up common and uncommon idiomatic phrases would be at least as important as individual words too (though this is definitely something an ML tool can aid) |
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My process is just the opposite of (i). I want to read and understand a book, so I want something to show me where my deficiencies are. Then when I read the page, chapter, etc. it will go much more smoothly. This is also an iterative process where I'm constantly going back and forth between studying new words in a section and trying to read the section.
For (ii), every exercise or review sentence has a link directly back to the source material. I am playing with the idea of extending the context to +/- N sentences when showing an exercise as well.
> using definitions and exercises specifically constructed to be accessible and relevant to language learners
This is the prescriptivist view of language learning and how all classes and textbooks are created. It can be useful, especially at the earliest stages of learning a language. Still, I mostly reject it because when using a language, I have very little control over the content I have to consume. I don't get to choose how an article is written or how someone speaks to me. So the sooner I address that as a language learner, the faster I will become comfortable with arbitrary content.
Phrases are great, I agree. I don't have a vision of how that could work technically so it's just in the pile of ideas I'd love to do eventually.