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by archildress 1392 days ago
I've thought about this many times, and my answer is: when there is a massive, at-scale leak of seriously disruptive personal information. Think Google search history, medical files, or databases of credit card transactions. When it takes enough peoples' lives off the normal track, people will finally be fed up.
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That already happened with the OPM breach in 2015 It seriously messed up people's credit, work life and daily lives. [0]

No slow down at all of data gathering.

There's been dozens of the exact kind you're describing and nobody cares [1].

[0] https://www.asisonline.org/security-management-magazine/arti...

[1] https://www.purdueglobal.edu/blog/information-technology/wor...

Also the Equifax breach seriously messed up people's credit, work life, and daily lives.

Given Equifax's one job is to protect people's credit you would have hoped they'd have gotten more than a slap on the wrist of a class action lawsuit. At the very least, you would have expected their clients (banks) to have had trust issues in remaining their clients and something of a long term impact on their revenue. (It's done nothing but grow its revenue since the data breach.)

What's really rich about the Equifax breach screwing up people's credit is that Equifax also makes up the credit ratings. It's the corporate equivalent of "nice reputation you have there, would be a shame if something happened to it" type of protection racket. And before anyone accuses me of hyperbole remember that Equifax themselves call it "identity theft protection”.
> Equifax's one job

Oh, they've got their hands more pies than credit ratings

> Equifax also offers fraud prevention products based on device fingerprinting such as "FraudIQ Authenticate Device."

> selling consumer credit and insurance reports and related analytics to businesses in a range of industries.

> Equifax sells businesses credit reports, analytics, demographic data, and software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equifax#Products

Obviously I was being hyperbolic, which is partly why I emphasized it. Though this list doesn't actually read to me as being anything more than "monetizing everything they can even remotely related credit ratings". It's not really a different "product" selling credit ratings for their intended purpose to banks and selling them to non-bank businesses for looser moral purposes, is it?
The north american credit rating agencies have seen numerous leaks of immensely disruptive personal information. This happened so many times that there are talk show episodes about it.

This happened. The vast majority of people do not care or do not have time to care.

I love how you brought up this meme (which used to be a consensus opinion fwict ~2009) and it immediately got discredit with multiple examples! Clearly this is not a way forward ("waiting for others to be outraged" - guess what? They already are!! You are all just too coward to change your behaviour) we /must/ move to FOSS and p2p, all energy should go towards solving the tragedy of the commons in cyberspace and then the resulting communication structures will help us solve our issues in meatspace. Anything else is just wishful thinking or waiting for the tools to be available from the programmer class.
The outrage would only be temporary (again). And then things would go back to 'normal'
Someone should leak everyone's nudes from google photos/iCloud etc.

Including names and everything.

That would wake people up.

They did it was the fappenning. The only difference is it happened to celebrities so the police got right on solving that.
This should be done to politicians that lobby for data brokerages. They only do the correct thing when personally affected.
> This should be done to politicians

oh c'mon, nobody wants to see that. Send me a goatse [dot] cx link or something more vanilla

John Oliver supposedly did just this earlier this year: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2022/apr/11/john-ol...

But there's been nothing on it since. Given how Oliver's show tends to run, I figure the topic will be back towards the end of the season.

I know that one happened.

But because it was celebrities people just thought "oh it wouldn't happen to me".

John Oliver claimed that he did that 4 months ago -- buying sensitive data about members of Congress, but once he got his YouTube views, he dropped the topic. Controlled opposition.

https://google.com/search?q=john+oliver+privacy