[jdhawk]

Kinda silly that we're putting motors on bikes that outclass the braking system though, yeah?

Imagine a Corvette with the brakes of a Malibu. Would chevy would be torched for creating an unsafe vehicle? Kinda the same theory here...If you're selling a package make sure all the components are sized to work appropriately together.

[SauciestGNU]

I have one of these bikes, and the mechanical disc brakes do not outpace the motor. They provide adequate (even snappy) stopping power in every condition I've tested them in. I'm also a qualified bike mechanic and I've done maintenance on my Rad Runner. The factory assembled bits are all properly and well installed, with everything torqued to spec and loctite applied to some threads of hardware that's more permanent.

It's really silly to throw blame around for such a tragic event, but a loose quick release skewer cannot be attributed to anything except user error.

[Syonyk]

> Kinda silly that we're putting motors on bikes that outclass the braking system though, yeah?

What are you doing with the bike, and under what conditions are you riding it?

Riding an ebike in the midwest flatlands is very different from bombing around Seattle or San Francisco or your random mountain trail. In the midwest, 250W on the front motor is... if not enjoyable, quite adequate. In Seattle, that's an accident looking for a place to happen (front wheel motors are really darty climbing hills, and if you hit a wet, slick spot, they'll spin the wheel up and dump you).

And the 1500W geared hub motor and hydraulic brakes built to pound around Seattle, year round, for commuting, is excessively overkill in the midwest flats. It works fine, you're just wasting money for no useful gain in capability.

I test rode a bunch of Rad's earlier bikes, and I never felt the brakes were lacking, but neither was I taking them up and down mountains. If I were, I'd probably have upgraded them.

And I would suggest that most stock Corvettes do have inadequate brakes if you're tracking them. They're (I'd hope...) decent enough on the street, but I would expect them to fade to oblivion in a hurry on a track if you didn't make some pad material and perhaps rotor changes. They're not built for track days, and, if you've never had the displeasure of driving "track brakes" on the street, there's a reason for that.

[salawat]

...All sports cars I've had occasion to drive have woefully undersized brakes. I ...uh... Learned that in a way that resulted in two sets of soiled trousers, that I'm pretty sure the other person will never forgive me for, even though both of us by the grace of God alone came out of the experience with little more than a "Holy Shit".

Blind hills with left turns just past the crest are no joke.

[Gordonjcp]

> Imagine a Corvette with the brakes of a Malibu.

<thinks about every American car I've ever driven>

A Corvette with any sort of brakes would be an improvement.