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by pseudalopex 1396 days ago
USA Today reported Near died by suicide.

Would anyone stop defending Kiwi Farms if Near's suicide was proven? Would anyone decide Kiwi Farms is not so bad if Near was proven alive? 2 other targets' suicides are undisputed as far as I know. Kiwi Farms defenders say anyone who killed themselves because of harassment would have killed themselves anyway. And they say an unenforceable rule against interacting with targets means the forum can't be blamed.
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phendrenad2 1396 days ago
Even the USA Today article says "allegedly". And you're right, everyone has already made up their mind based on feelings. That's the cool thing about facts, you don't have to do that.
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pseudalopex 1396 days ago
> Even the USA Today article says "allegedly".

The headline said Respected developer who was bullied online dies by suicide. My browser found allegedly nowhere in the article. I didn't see anything similar to allegedly when I skimmed it again. Could you point it out?[1]

> And you're right, everyone has already made up their mind based on feelings. That's the cool thing about facts, you don't have to do that.

Not what I said. The cool thing about facts is they shape opinions and actions. I don't think many opinions are shaped by the difference between 2 and 3 deaths.

[1] https://news.yahoo.com/respected-developer-died-suicide-expe...

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phendrenad2 1395 days ago
It says "allegedly", right there, in the article. I don't have to provide sources, just as USA Today doesn't.
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