[ak_111]

You need to factor in the cost of training them and their quality of service. For example European drivers usually have better English skills or have worked in similar coffee shops before, used to driving in Europe, familiar with cleaning and construction regulations, ...

[blitzar]

"Of course foreigners steal your job, but maybe, if someone without contacts, money, or speaking the language steals your job, you're shit." ~ Louis C. K.

But sadly yes, Europeans tend to have better English than the English.

[yrgulation]

There are no more europeans coming in. Ye know, low wage and visa restrictions don't work when it comes to people moving in from high income economies.

[Dma54rhs]

Wealthier class makes in always incredibly difficult for foreigners to take the jobs. Through paperwork, qualifications and red tape. You can see how angry they get here when the topic of visas for Indian tech workers come up. Suddenly everyone stays they are cheating, bringing wages down etc.

[yrgulation]

It's not about training, it's about control and low pay. Much like US' h1b, but with a clearer path to citizenship and better rights for workers.

[ak_111]

the context of this quote is that the UK economy shot itself in the foot by getting rid of cheap European labour, then someone responded actually no because they got even cheaper labour from outside Europe, I was pointing out that they are not cheap as they seem due to training cost and decline in quality of service.

[yrgulation]

They shot themselves in the foot already - but is there any proof that european labour was cheap? I kept reading about this, but my anecdata shows otherwise. At least in tech. In many cases it was the opposite tbh.