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by Geee 1400 days ago
It drives just fine at night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCTssX2VdKA

Progress this year has been pretty amazing. If they didn't progress or didn't try to make it work, then I'd call it a scam.

You're not reading that SAR chart right. If you look at the features and examples, FSD is level 5 in there. That's what the system is designed to do. It's not a lane assistant or a traffic jam chauffer. Again, it's level 2 only because it's beta and requires supervision, and the driver is liable for any mistakes.

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> Progress this year has been pretty amazing. If they didn't progress or didn't try to make it work, then I'd call it a scam.

It should have been complete years ago in 2020, at Level 5 FSD; so what do you mean about 'progress'? After missing more deadlines and claims, the price of FSD increases again despite the multiple malfunctions from lots of testers.

One example of a devoted Tesla fan / investor (Whole Mars Catalog) doing controlled experiments and driving around the same San Francisco street(s) is hardly a generic case of the whole situation.

> You're not reading that SAR chart right

I have read it correctly and Tesla FSD is still not Level 5 as advertised and by definition of the SAE chart.

Even in the video the driver is still paying full attention and has to continuously intervene by touching and guiding the steering wheel. They still have their attention and their eyes on the road which is not required for a Level 5 robot-taxi FSD system supposedly due for 2020.

So Tesla knows they are selling a Level 2 system still requiring the full attention of the driver and still not even close to the Level 5 robo-taxi claims, but was marketed as Level 5 anyway to mislead their customers with the help of their loyal fans doing videos of controlled experiments to fool new customers into purchasing an unfinished product.

Given it frequently malfunctions, the generic excuse is: ‘With each update, it gets better’,‘There is potential, buy it now before the price increases again’ or ‘It will get better soon, its early days’.

It is clearly not early days and we have given it enough time to be Level 5 FSD and it still isn't close even if they were given up to this year to finish it. So it is definitely a piped piper scam selling false promises to their customers. If this was a different company, there would be class action lawsuits all over this.

You need to really snap out of it.