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by nearmuse 1396 days ago
Care to give any examples? I am not having any issues at all. Not only that, but I don't feel like FF is getting in my way somehow and that I should try a different browser.
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Discord is broken on Firefox. It's fast when you restart it, but over a few days it turns into a slog to the point where if you click on a different channel, it takes over 20 seconds sometimes to load. Then when you type a message, you can only type about 5 characters before it locks up for another 20 seconds.

If you look on the mozilla bugtracker, there are many people having this same issue

I have a similar problem with the Electron version of Discord on Linux.

So I use it in a tab on Firefox. Much smoother.

Yeah, I’ve had this happen too, but all you need to do is refresh the tab. Not exactly worth writing home about.
If you would like to write home about this Discord problem, please consider filing Bugzilla bug report with a memory log from Firefox’s about:memory page and a performance profile using the Firefox Profiler:

https://profiler.firefox.com/

A profile can make a bug with vague or difficult steps to reproduce surprisingly actionable.

MS Teams video and voice doesn't work at all in Firefox. Google "gadgets" don't work in mobile Firefox unless you spoof the user agent. There are also a handful of other sites I've run into where certain functionality only works in chrome based browsers. Sometimes, spoofing the user agent is enough to get it working in firefox.
> MS Teams video and voice doesn't work at all in Firefox

Actually, I noticed voice started working last month. I could see the video but not send mine, but it might in the future.

Please don't force Teams on anybody though, this is unacceptable in 2022 for a company like Microsoft when its alternatives have been working in Firefox for years.

It didn't work at all in Chromium too, because apparently it relied on the Widevine DRM on Chrome (?!). That's nuts. That's bullshit. If you don't have it, it fails with an obscure error message like "Unable to join the conference" without any reason. Good luck guessing why.

If video and sound don’t work in firefox it sounds more like a microsoft issue than a firefox issue. Webcam and Microphone APIs are following the standard and are well documented on MDN.

Sounds like user agent / window.navigator sniffing in order to block the browser.

Classic microsoft. They will never change.

Oh, it's absolutely Microsoft's fault. In this case they are using (or at least were) pre-standard chrome specific apis.

The problem isn't that Firefox is bad. It's that many site are designed specifically for chrome, and they don't bother testing against Firefox. And for the average user, all they really notice is thay some sites don't work in Firefox.

Which I what many here who worked through the IE dominance have been warning against - yet the only thing we hear is that other browsers are the “new IE”.
Video and voice worked last I tested so long as I spoofed a Firefox Windows UA rather than Firefox Linux...
>Google "gadgets" don't work in mobile Firefox unless you spoof the user agent.

how is that firefox problem if the service is actively hostile towards firefox?

It's not. That doesn't change the fact that some sites work better on chrome. Just like some sites worked best in IE, back when that was the dominant browser.
so the work is about informing firefox of broken websites.
Voice and screensharing support on FF (but no video camera) is supposedly coming soon from MS: https://www.ghacks.net/2022/04/06/microsoft-teams-in-firefox...
Zoom recording playback doesn't work in FF for me either.
My bank's internet banking page to pay multiple beneficiaries pages is a jumbled mess in Firefox. I haven't bothered to check why but I am guessing it's some grid layout issue. I did write to bank highlighting the issue. It's been over a year and still issue persists so I just switch to Chromium for internet banking.
When page layout is so broken, it’s often an ad blocker add-on issue. Maybe try testing your bank website with with add-ons disabled.
I do have some sites which are consistently slower on Firefox than on Chrome. Chrome (and Edge) just feel all-round snappier (at least when "new", ie with few tabs open). The difference is not enough for me to switch my daily driver, though.

Things that come to mind that I use often:

* AWS console

* Google Maps

* Confluence

Hell, even the front page of Hacker News loads a bit faster on Chromium than on Firefox. Sure, the difference is negligible in absolute terms, but still. I get around 5-600 ms for Chromium, and around 8-900 for Firefox. Both running on X11/Linux 5.19-zen on a Ryzen 5650U with 32 GB of RAM.

I haven't used Chrome intensively in a long while, but I seem to me remember at the time (many years ago, on a Mac) it would slow to a crawl after a few days with many open tabs. I don't have any such issue with Firefox on Linux.

Google Maps actually works better for me on FF than on Chrome. For some reason earth view won't launch on Chrome while it never stopped working on FF.
Now I have to object here.

AWS Console being completely stateful with its accounts and roles is only usable in Firefox with Containers.

And as for Google Maps I don't see any difference between Chrome and Firefox.

I use Confluence for work, and so have to use Chrome. It's slow and terrible everywhere.

I just tried on my mobile. Chrome is much slower. Firefox is sub second, while chrome was a noticeable wait. I actually checked if I didn't have connection issues and opened a new private tab in Firefox to check.
Google Maps and Twitter are those that spring to mind. Obviously JS heavy.
Google Maps, I can confirm. It works, but it's noticably slow on Firefox. Tiles appear a tab bit slower, and street view navigation takes a fraction of a second to respond. It didn't stop me from using Firefox, but I can absolutely understand if someone finds it as a deal breaker if they use Google maps often.
What issues do you experience? I can't tell that anything is wrong with either of them on firefox
'Finish' time from the network tabs in the respective debuggers for Google maps

Brave: 8.46s Firefox: 26.91s

Same machine, an older thinkpad (i5-6300U). I posit that the perf differences may be masked by newer hardware.

Well I can't say I have ever experienced performance quite that bad myself. On my i7-2700K desktop I'm only seeing about 6s-7s each. Kind of hard to tell when maps is really finished loading though.
If you're mostly reading on Twitter: https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

I share the experience with Maps, though I never see it these days as the G gets its own ungoogled-chromium sandbox and don't get to play with other domains here anyway.

Last time I played on Chess.com, Firefox only had access to Stockfish 11 but Chromium browsers had access to Stockfish 15.
Jitsi meet has had trouble. Not sure who is at fault though.
That is like almost 2 years ago (as a side note they also had issues with safari).