[imron]

I’m actually trying to convince my current employer to let us use Linux laptops instead of windows ones (with Linux vms for all development).

My comment was in reply to someone saying Linux just works without needing to tinker, and as much as I’d prefer to be using a Linux based laptop, those are 3 things I have spent countless hours tinkering with to try and get working without success.

[teddyh]

I assume that there is reasonable PC laptops out there which also have problems with “power management, screen sharing […] and certain Bluetooth headsets” …on Windows. If you were to encounter such a laptop, would you also consider Windows to “not work” with these three things?

If not, then why do you do that for Linux?

[imron]

> If you were to encounter such a laptop

I don’t encounter such laptops except when they run Linux.

Other OSes have their own litany of issues, however the topic under discussion was how well Linux just worked without tinkering, and these things are still pain points for Linux that I don’t encounter on other platforms.

This is not to imply that Linux is bad out that you shouldn’t use it, just that it is still not tinker free.

[teddyh]

> Other OSes have their own litany of issues, however the topic under discussion was how well Linux just worked without tinkering, and these things are still pain points for Linux that I don’t encounter on other platforms.

My point is that yes you do. You just immediately attribute the problem to the other parts, not to Windows. Myriads of Windows users everywhere have all sorts of problems with all sorts of hardware, and everyone just accepts it as some sort of problem that they’re having. But a problem where Linux is involved somewhere? Then it’s suddenly Linux which is prone to problems.

[imron]

> My point is that yes you do

No I don't.