[klyrs]

Does it work in rain, snow, and/or night? How about country roads and roads without clearly marked lanes or misleading lane lines?

It's like hiring a plumber who can only flush toilets, not install them. Self driving in pristine conditions is a party trick. Until it can do the hard part, it's nowhere near human-level.

[cma]

At autonomy investor day they were saying better than a human in all human drivable conditions by 2020 for the robotaxi network they said they would launch then. They confirmed they meant level 5 autonomy in answer to a direct question.

They knew dojo wouldn't be online by then and they didn't even really train on video at that point, just trying to judge the scene image by image instead of taking into account prior frames (like knowing someone walked behind a bush 1p frames ago, so that sliver of emerging leg from behind a bush that might not be detectable confidently enough from a single image should be weighted higher).

[Geee]

FSD handles those situations well, compared to Waymo etc, because FSD doesn't depend on pre-mapping. Waymo depends on pre-generated 3D maps and it fails if there's a discrepancy. That's why Waymo works only on small areas and uses cherry-picked routes.

See this example, where the map data is completely wrong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gTV9SlutU0

[quantified]

Compared to anything else that also doesn't work, ok. But that is not the yardstick to apply, is it?

Does it actually work in the real world is the yardstick to apply.