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by germinalphrase 1400 days ago
“Why didn't I end up in teaching? The licensing requirements in Minnesota are insane. Counselor's straight up told me I'd have to borrow ~$50k from the UMN for a MS in Curriculum and Instruction before I could teach.”

I received my teaching license in Wisconsin and transferred to Minnesota by doing little more than passing the licensure exam. I did not have an MS at that time or when I started teaching in the Minneapolis suburbs.

I believe you were somewhat misled.
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diognesofsinope 1400 days ago
I don't have a BS in Education (BA in Philosophy), which means you have to go through their M. Ed. program with licensure. You must take Educational Theory/Pedagogy core courses along with required courses in your field -- I had saved money and already taken the calc sequence, linear algebra and differential equations.

Grad school at the UMN is ~$10k a semester (https://onestop.umn.edu/finances/costs/tuition). Would have been ~30 years old, $40k in debt as a beginning teacher in MN. Amazingly, none of that includes actual experience teaching lol.

The teachers union has been waging a war against future teachers to benefit current teachers for 30 years and this is what that looks like after 30 years.

Similar to housing and zoning, education is a government racket.

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greenie_beans 1399 days ago
> The teachers union has been waging a war against future teachers to benefit current teachers for 30 years

this statement is presented as The Truth, do you have some information that backs this up?

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diognesofsinope 1399 days ago
The field of study of occupation licensing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occupational_licensing

It's absurd to think someone needs to take a $1k 'Philosophy of Mathematics' class to teach 10th grade geometry.

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ModernMech 1399 days ago
> The philosophy of mathematics is the branch of philosophy that studies the assumptions, foundations, and implications of mathematics. It aims to understand the nature and methods of mathematics, and find out the place of mathematics in people's lives. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_mathematics

Considering that the primary complaint 10th grade math students have about math is often "How is this relevant to me and my life?", wouldn't studying the philosophy of mathematics help a teacher in addressing this concern?

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greenie_beans 1399 days ago
i'm aware of that, but can you give me a concrete examples where teacher unions in minnesota are causing the problem of occupational licensing?
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