[hugh3]

I am totally cool with the FBI lying, coercing and otherwise trying to convince criminals to give up the evidence against themselves, as long as they don't actually break out the wrench.

The idea that you can't be compelled to testify against yourself, present in many western legal systems, is a good one, and is designed to prevent both torture and false imprisonment due to torture-induced false confessions. But that doesn't mean it's not a good thing in those circumstances when a guilty person does incriminate themselves.

[burgerbrain]

How exactly is coercion ok?

These are not criminals we are talking about. These are citizens accused of crimes.

[hugh3]

Right. But if they're innocent, then the evidence won't incriminate them.

[Karunamon]

Heh, that's what you think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik

[burgerbrain]

Are you seriously pulling a "nothing to hide if you are innocent"? I can't believe this.