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>Volvo, Ericsson, Saab, ABB,...

I know this sounds silly or wrong, but most dont think of those as "Tech" Companies. Modern world uses of "Tech" now mostly means Software.

[kramerger]

Sony Mobile is definitely a "modern tech company" and they are Ubuntu first. At the same time a company like Volvo or ABB is these days probably 60% software development and at most 40% mechanical engineering.

I think you are living in a bubble.

[ksec]

>I think you are living in a bubble.

I am not, considering I am the only defending 5G and Ericsson on HN. But you should say that to the rest of HN.