[vnm]

I wish Safari developers would spend their valuable time on fixing the horror Safari is. It's literally the new Internet Explorer. If you work on building web apps with complex interactions, animations, etc, you get to hate Safari with all your heart in a very short amount of time.

There are things they've done that are amazing, and which I respect (like JavaScriptCore), but overall Safari is the worst popular browser. I don't get how people can stand it, but again I don't get how people can stand iOS either.

[wixyu]

Uhm this is exactly what :has is, fixing the ‘horror’. This is such an outdated idea, the WebKit team have been killing it the past 12-18 months as evidenced by the efforts on interop 2022. https://wpt.fyi/interop-2022

[tannhaeuser]

> Safari is [...] literally the new Internet Explorer.

> But do you ever see a “Best viewed with Safari” notice? No, you don’t. Another browser takes that special place in web developers’ hearts and minds.

> Chrome is the new IE, but in reverse. [1]

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28156818

[kitsunesoba]

A vanishingly small percentage of the web I make regular use of has any legitimate need for anything beyond what web browsers were capable of 4-6 years ago. In the odd case that I run into a site that’s broken in Safari, I can usually find an alternative that works fine in a few seconds.

What has the biggest impact on me as a user isn’t the quantity of bells and whistles the browser’s engine has, but how efficient it is because nobody likes battery vampire apps and how much the browser tilts the balance of control in favor of the user, because third parties on the web are best treated as adversarial until proven otherwise.

Chrome provides a nice experience for devs, but its user experience continues to slip.

[elevaet]

It's not literally the new IE, but it is the new IE.