[drekipus]

This is an interesting post, But requires changes "to the system" that is a little too big for my small brain to think about. If I might diverge from a little as a thought I'm still figuring out:

It ends on the thought of "for a common good" which makes me think of that utilitarian ideal, one that I don't think is going to be approached by democratic processes of popular vote and the like*

So what then? if not "democracy" to get us looking after the common good, is the alternative autocracy, totalitarianism? being realised through monarch-ism or dictatorship?

There's a good video [1] about how fascism was able to be so prevalent in the 20th centry when politics became less individualised and more collective will, "Common good for US" etc in both communism and nazism. Fascism itself relies on having an "us vs them" approach - which, while old kingdoms also had, were perhaps less pronounced and pointed? (I don't know, I'm just imagining a kingdom wanting to keep to itself rather than invading europe)

So it leads me to think: is the only way we can get towards this "for the common good" is to fall in step behind a mono-government that we must be selective to ensure that no harm is done to those outside of "our" domain? or is this all just friviolovily and it's up to us to organise and look after those around us (smaller feudal states or such)

Not sure, interesting thoughts, happy for any corrections if I was wrong about something.

* There's an interesting approach to popular vote that I've found however, that might be of interest, being that "everyone gets to vote as many parties that they want" https://youtu.be/yhO6jfHPFQU

1: https://youtu.be/1T_98uT1IZs

[Schroedingersat]

Anarchist models (zapatista territories, machnovia, catalonia, rojava etc) work fairly well internally or at least better than alternatives, but do not seem to be robust to extermination or cooption by well funded capitalists (the ussr and ccp are examples of state capitalism, not socialism or communism).

I think the zapatista principle whereby the entity that does violence is completely decoupled from any decision making processes that do no involve direct violence and serves only the people and depends directly on the people is an essential ingredient.

Also voting methods are only a minor help without functioning journalism or media, and runoff vs preference etc. matters less than proportional representation

[ZeroGravitas]

Your video pretty extensively documents that it wasn't for the "common good" or "us", the Nazis were explicit and he quotes them on it, as being keen to literally kill orphans, whores, the deaf and a whole list of other people with less "value". Not train them or teach them to provide more value, to kill them.

And even the ones they didn't kill, would get a reward only to the degree they contributed to the warlike plundering society they envisaged as their destiny (not one say voted on by the people themselves).

And this is the Germans they were talking about! The Slavs that they allowed to live would be literal slaves for the production of food to export to the Germans (the one's they hadn't killed).

[drekipus]

Common good of their master race / chosen people. Sorry I thought that was implied.