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by lancesells 1405 days ago
Most new macOS apps from Apple seem to be pretty awful and don't feel like an actual mac app. Home, TV, and Music have some really horrible ux/ui. Music is slightly better than the others but you would think they would have the resources to make these right. TV and Music are subscription-based in a way which seems like a no-brainer to add resources to make a proper app.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/nikitonsky/status/155735766117120...

This thread of UI issues with the Ventura System Settings really says it all. Most of this would have been shocking in a different era of Apple.

For non-Mac users, Ventura is a forthcoming version of macOS which will be released this fall. Developers are reporting UX issues with beta releases now, and in my experience, many of them will be fixed by release. However, a System Preferences rethink is going to take multiple OS releases to get right.
It’s really quite remarkable how something as simple as a settings app ends up showing the toolkit isn’t ready for prime time. The new windows settings app was also a disaster.
Settings seems like a good way to test out a Framework. You've got a lot of different areas to cover, with a mix of graphical content, text, buttons, menus, & dropdowns.
Stealing from Windows
It’s a beta, this is not shocking in any era of Apple, just access and expectations have jumped ahead.
Software bugs notwithstanding, the actual design choices made in the settings menu are baffling.

Having items needlessly nested under modals/popups is a design choice and the complaints have little to do with the fact that the beta is buggy.

As a user of macOS betas for many, many years, this amount of visual issues this close to release date is pretty novel.

I have little faith this will be addressed in the scant time left before a GM release

Like most big tech companies I'm sure they find success metrics in every project they do. Especially the ones consumers hate.
Our telemetry says users are spending more time than ever before in the settings app. Engagement is up! Good work, team!