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by adastra22 1401 days ago
This is one instance where that approach probably pays dividends, if they can pull it off. Most macOS-like clones that I've tried fall short, due to there being only so much you can do to paper-over the Linux desktop experience. A sort of uncanny valley that I just can't get over and adjust to using.
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pjmlp 1401 days ago
To have the full experience they also need to clone the Objective-C and Swift frameworks, and IDE tooling.
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kelnos 1401 days ago
The GNUStep project has already done much of the ObjC framework cloning. I wonder if they're using that. Not sure about Swift frameworks, though.
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nirimda 1401 days ago
They mention in the faq that they do not use GNUStep's implementation of the frameworks, but they do use GNUStep's implementation of the libobjc2 runtime. There's licensing and goal issues. Apparently their Cocoa implementation comes from "the same source" as Darling's, but I don't know what that means. (Cross referencing with Darling's faq, I guess it's The Cocotron.)
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cestith 1401 days ago
GNUStep is GPL though, and one of the stated goals of ravynOS is to be BSD and MIT licensed. On the FAQ page they address this, even saying they might be willing to use it despite the licensing.
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pjmlp 1401 days ago
If what you understand by macOS is how Panther used to be.
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JadeNB 1401 days ago
> If what you understand by macOS is how Panther used to be.

That's a bit old for me (I started with Tiger), but I would definitely be all over an option to go back to OS X (where, I felt, the paradigm was that users should be presented with the best possible default experience, but also should be trusted to tinker if they chose to do so) before they started pushing this macOS = iOS integration (where the paradigm should be that users should be protected, even against themselves, from any need or ability to tinker).

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pjmlp 1400 days ago
That is mostly what GNUStep managed to be compatible with before running out of steam.
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wmf 1400 days ago
It's hundreds of person-years of work so no, they can't pull it off.
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thrtythreeforty 1400 days ago
See also Linux, and Firefox, neither of which got pulled off.

Snark aside, sure, it starts small. But it's so much easier to pitch in if there's some code base to work with. It snowballs.

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