[namecheapTA]

Is there anyone that genuinely wants people a few steps down financially from them living near by them? If you make $150k being an decent but not fantastic engineer and you get into a nice enough neighborhood, are you really that excited if the vacant land down the street is being turned into low income duplexes for tow truck drivers? Honestly?

[the_only_law]

I wouldn’t give two shits because I’m not a snobby douchebag.

[shellfisher]

Most that answer with a categorical “yes” (I want that) haven’t lived what you are suggesting.

I’ve lived next to low income + “project” housing. It’s physically dangerous, in the form of gun violence. Sucks but it’s true. When you’re in your 20s it’s whatever, what are the odds that you’ll be hit by a stray bullet?

When you’re pushing 40 and have kids? Fuck that. Build your housing elsewhere.

[wnolens]

Yes, sounds great.

Useless, vacant land v.s. new neighbors + taxes paid to the city.

The benefit is obvious when you put aside your prejudice against those from different walks of life.

[namecheapTA]

Jesus. Go more extreme then. Do you want to live next to the barely employed, social services using, bike stealing crowd? Are we really pretending nicer safer areas aren't more desirable than areas of low income housing?

[trevorboaconstr]

So let me get this straight, in your mind, every person making below, say, 35K, is a barely employed, social services using, bike stealing bum?

I’m gunna be honest, if we’re making broad generalizations now, silicon valley snobs are by far the most selfish, inconsiderate, lack of empathy having, inflated ego persons in the entirety of the country. Texas and Arizona needs to be bussing those immigrants to SF area and not NY.

[namecheapTA]

Every person? Obviously not. Statistically more likely? Absolutely.

And your comments about SF people are absolutely true, and I live here.

[wnolens]

I think you're free to use your money to buy yourself out of discomfort and into a nice place for your family, but to gate-keep others out of the freedom you enjoy is wrong.

Yes, you might have to face discomfort so that others can afford to put a roof over their head. There is a housing affordability crisis in North America for which it is necessary to build (on top of many other efforts required).

Yes, it's completely rational for you to be a selfish actor in this instance. But I don't believe it's rational for government to continue to support NIMBY'ism for the long term health of its society.

[AlexandrB]

Lol. My dad was a janitor. It's hard work but he wasn't some kind of different species of human and he didn't rob our neighbors during his time off. What exactly is wrong with living next to a tow truck driver?

[namecheapTA]

Obviously there are great low income earners. I'm just speaking statistically.

[colmanhumphrey]

honestly yeah, I like living in density with other people around. It generally leads to more local businesses too: even if the number per-capita is the same, you get more choice, better opening hours etc.

[EddySchauHai]

In cities like Atherton and Woodside if you earn $150k you're the person a few steps down and just a low income computer guy! Consider that next time you write that sort of comment - there's always a bigger fish.

Treat others how you'd like to be treated. I'd rather live next to a decent guy who's a truck driver than a rich idiot. I'd also hate to live in a bubble. Look at London - you have places like Camden with multi-million pound town houses opposite council estates.

[namecheapTA]

This wasn't about me, I wasn't the one I described. And I totally understand why people in Atherton wouldn't want people like me as their neighbor. I'm not goofy enough to think we'd be best buds if only given the chance.