[cma]

This does seem like even more gaslighting, you said:

" I would like to argue that being healthy and fit is not about the gym, or investing time in tracking calories."

Instead we should focus on on daily fun movements that we like to do."

Now those daily fun movements include the gym if you like the gym? But you still are saying they should do something daily instead of periodic gym, not that they could.

[spoiler]

Jesus Christ, why be so petty about him slightly confusing his point. I think the point he tried to make is that people often go to the gym and don't enjoy it, because they think it's the only or best option, but that those people should instead just look for a physical activity that's fun/enjoyable to them instead. HOWEVER if someone enjoys going to the gym, then that is perfectly fine. And that was the point they tried to make. Just use a little bit of empathy, people.

[zamfi]

My fault - I started this whole thing, and wish I hadn't. The actual point is totally reasonable, but poorly communicated.

But the issue is not about the poster confusing their point, it's about them blaming the respondent for misunderstanding what the poster was saying, saying the respondent read "should" instead of "could", but the poster actually wrote "should".

"I wasn't being confusing, you just misunderstood!" is a pretty bad-faith argument to make in general, that's what I was trying to point out. But there must be some language barrier thing going on, because the original poster just doubled-down on the bad faith argumentation :shrug:

This whole subthread is pointless.

[itsoktocry]

>This does seem like even more gaslighting

For the love of god, saying something self-contradictory is not "gas lighting".

[solveit]

Thank you for fighting the good fight. Words (should) mean things!

[mister_mister]

Focusing on something doesn't exclude anything. It could maybe come of as self-contradictory but it wasn't.

"Daily movements" is incredibly broad and includes working out in the gym, it also includes walking, playing sport.

[PuppyTailWags]

I think the post is arguing for a superset of the definition of exercise which includes the gym as opposed to a set definition of exercise defined by the gym exclusive of other activities. A superset definition would also include lifting my child for piggyback rides, a brisk walk with a friend, or practicing a flash mob.

[Attummm]

We should focus, that doens't mean we should not.

There is allot research about daily exercise and the enormous health benefits. If we focus on trying to incoperate more movements throughout the the day.

It will be easier to maintain, and if we miss a day we will have the next day.

But if we would do both it will even be better:)

The bioneer in the youtube video explains it way better then this post.

[mister_mister]

Man that poster is trying gaslight us into healthy habits. Let's get him boys. /s

What is going on with these comments. Going to gym could be part healthy lifestyle but it's not needed, when the lock downs happened many found out that it was single point of failure for them. And shouldn't have been that way.

[mister_mister]

"But you still are saying they should do something daily instead of periodic gym, not that they could. " The article of the thread is saying that...