[zeroth32]

> lawsuit about alleged casteism

Why is it just not called racism? Introducing new terms kind of derails the problem.

India (and Africa, China, Asia...) has a system where people with lighter skin are consider as "better". People with fair (whiter) skin are considered aristocracy, that never had to work outside on fields.

And castes could not intermarry for couple of thousands of years, it is legitimate to consider them as a race.

[_fat_santa]

> Why is it just not called racism? Introducing new terms kind of derails the problem.

Casteism is the correct term for this. This isn't a different race of people, it's the same race of people in a different class. I agree with you that there are many similarities between Casteism and Racism, but I think it's good to separate it out.

From what I've learned on the topic, with Racism someone sees the color of your skin and can make assumptions from there. With casteism thought it's more about your family name, as someone from the lowest caste can look like someone from an upper caste.

[zeroth32]

Suing tech giant for racism is way more punchy, there are already laws and precedences... Educating people about "racism of a new type" is pretty complicated.

Reductionist approach "skin color"=="race" can be easily debunked. Could white German be ever racist to white Jew?

[JumpCrisscross]

> Why is it just not called racism?

You have a point. But Apple doesn’t want to continuously debate caste vs. race (they’re both social constructs). For statute, it should suffice to incorporate caste as an aspect of race.

[ChrisRR]

Just because you don't understand a term, doesn't mean you can just swap it for a term that you do understand.

Go read up on what the caste system is, its history and how it effects life within India. It seems you'll learn something new.

[zeroth32]

I understand casteism, I worked with indian devs for two decades. I would suggest you to read what Gandi said about negros. I have a news for you; "brown" people can be racist too. White westerners do not have a monopoly on racism!

[ChrisRR]

I never said that Indian people can't be racist. I'm sure they can be racist, caste-ist or whatever the hell "ist" they like. But that doesn't automatically make them the same thing

[zeroth32]

Ok, sorry that was way too confrontational. I guess it boils down to definition of a "race". But given historical parallels, I still insist casteism is a type of racism.