[adhesive_wombat]

If I had $500, I'd get a second hand ThinkPad. Gets you a lot more computer than a $500 semi-disposible thermally-crippled mehbook.

My T440s is still going strong, and that was second hand back in 2016 (I did upgrade to an FHD matte screen).

They're not quite as good as they used to be though, the T580 definitely feels like a step down in build quality.

I may consider a Framework next go-around but for now, that's my strategy.

[jerryjerryjerry]

oh man, I'm also typing on my T440p now, and yes, it's still running strong and healthy without much to complain.

[haunter]

Agreed. I have some i5 x230 Thinkpdads from eBay and they are all perfectly fine with new SSD + maxed out RAM