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Yes, I do agree that it's territory of "incel" but you are isolating incel-ness with the alienation from the lonely people, there is definitely an intersection and it's huge.

The loneliness crisis is definitely a superset of the incel subset, but they can be independently treated because incels could be psychologically unwell.

The past two years increased the number of people pushed into this loneliness crisis well, and sadly it is not good for anyone.

But the main topic here is talking about men, so it is legitimate to talk about the "incel" problem. And definitely the writings are there, lonely angry men are both a danger to themselves and society.

Even if the remove the "incel-ness" of the "incels", you still have lonely men who could join the large superset of loneliness sufferers. And the economy is another factor in the equation why there is this crisis.

But a large group of men are definitely lonely, that's for sure.