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by nullc 1408 days ago
> to a sufficient degree into the future

Depends on the application. If you need the lights to go down at sundown a constant is good for thousands of years, a rate correction is good for a fair bit longer.

> Currently it looks like we won't have any leap second for the foreseeable future

In fact, bootstrapping from recent residuals suggests there is a reasonable chance of a positive leapsecond in the next several years. Each ordinary leapsecond causes substantial disruptions and system outages, and there has never been a positive leap second so it's reasonable to expect substantial issues.

> Whereas beyond 10s or so you might not even be able to see the target within your scope anymore

If your pointing accuracy is 10% of your FOV your life will be hard, why make it harder by not using an accurate UT1? Besides, for accurate pointing you'll want the pole offsets that are also in circular b. Once you're using an accurate source of the UT1 offset, the leapseconds at best do nthing.

> Not sure about the points about the complications of calculating the true UT1

To calculate UT1 using circular b or USNO observations you need to have an accurate UTC. Leapseconds make UTC failure prone. It's extremely easy to miss leap seconds, gain false leaps seconds, or (as of recently) accidentally end up with leap-smeared time.

> so you don't have to back anything out

They need to be backed out to linearly interpolate between entries to avoid a discontinuity.

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The pole offsets are in the order of hundreds of milli-arcseconds, whereas each second offset between UT1 and UTC produces an offset of (worst-case) ~14 arcseconds. Worlds of difference. Subtracting all leapseconds would yield an error of ~6 arcminutes, which can ruin your day if you are using any instrument with a small FoV (I know since I had that issue before where due to some hardware issues the telescope clock had lost a couple clock pulses and was 10-20s off compared to the observatory master clock).

> They need to be backed out to linearly interpolate between entries to avoid a discontinuity.

Ah.. if you want to apply it on the day of the leapsecond. Fair. I meant more in general. As in all other cases you can just more or less blindly apply it.

In practice I can't say I have been bitten by UTC+leap second issues before nor have I even heard from observatories being bitten by this. Now GPS epoch rollover - that I have been personally experienced issues with.

> In fact, bootstrapping from recent residuals suggests there is a reasonable chance of a positive leapsecond in the next several years. Each ordinary leapsecond causes substantial disruptions and system outages, and there has never been a positive leap second so it's reasonable to expect substantial issues.

We'll see if there will be a negative leapsecond in the future. But so far it also seems in line with no leapsecond at all.