[darccio]

There is no proof of social democracy being unpopular in Europe.

The only relevant political movements that advocate against social democracy are mainly extreme right wing. Even those are not growing - and usually collapsing afterwards - because of their individualistic approach to society but because of their appeal to people that feel migration is not good, that climate change doesn’t exist, etc.

Also, every time I read about “social democracy being a Ponzi scheme” along the demographics argument I feel an urge to remember that social democracy isn’t only the pensions system. Healthcare, education, infrastructure aren’t Ponzi schemes neither feasible from a pure individualistic approach.

[seydor]

social democrat parties are in major decline all over europe, even in sweden.

Well, social democracy is also the welfare system, and it also requires high social trust, and it also incurs debt for future generations.

I may be wrong, but i think social democracy was only possible during the (not so brief) moment of the boomers.

[excuses_]

It does not incur debt. Sweden or Denmark has been having debt to GDB ratio constantly declining.

I think social democracy can work but it’s hard and requires huge discipline from government and people. Also, it seems much easier to introduce in smaller countries.

[strawhatguy]

Incurring debt is different than the ratio of debt to gdp (or anything else).