[naet]

There was a court case that a family member of mine was involved in as a legal assistant, where a local high school found out a group of three kids had been operating an inappropriate instagram account targeting other students (all black) with things like photoshopped nooses around their necks, photoshopping pictures of the students into monkeys, and lots of horrible comments etc. Obviously this made the targeted students feel extremely unsafe with an anonymous account posting their photos online in this somewhat threatening way. Eventually somehow it came out who was behind the account and they were all removed from the school.

The case was about one of the expelled students, their family lawyer arguing that they shouldn't have this incident on their student record because it occurred outside of school. I can't remember if they won the case or not, but the issue is complicated. When there is an issue between two students who only know each other from school, it can become a school issue whether it originated there or not.

[panda88888]

> their family lawyer arguing that they shouldn't have this incident on their student record because it occurred outside of school

I think the alternatives should be criminal record or student record.

[FireBeyond]

> their family lawyer arguing that they shouldn't have this incident on their student record because it occurred outside of school

"The only reason you know most of the people you did this to is... drum roll... because you are at the same school"

[Waterluvian]

Good point. It’s indeed weird that there’s some delineation line between your school permanent record and your life permanent record.

[mlyle]

> It’s indeed weird that there’s some delineation line between your school permanent record and your life permanent record.

It's a good thing.

Student mental health is pretty bad these days. Part of it is that everything is so high stakes: society tells kids any little slip up-- academic or behavioral-- will affect them forever.

It's good that ordinary missteps can go away.

[em-bee]

in germany only severe crimes get on the permanent record. everything else will be removed after a few years. there is a separate record for youth crimes which is not included in your criminal record and is removed at age 24 if you didn't commit a severe crime.

whether something happens inside or outside school should have no bearing on how it is treated. when it comes to messaging, a warrant should be needed either way.

[mlyle]

> in germany only severe crimes get on the permanent record. everything else will be removed after a few years. there is a separate record for youth crimes which is not included in your criminal record and is removed at age 24 if you didn't commit a severe crime.

This is true of most states, though the fact that your juvenile record was sealed and expunged may itself be a record.