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by vannevar 1401 days ago
The concerning stats are on slides 32 and 33, showing that an increasing number of Americans believe Asian Americans are more loyal to their country of origin, and that Asian Americans contributed to COVID-19. Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans. Slide 19 provides some support for this, as conservatives were more than twice as likely as liberals to say that racism against Asian Americans has stayed the same or decreased.

Aggregate polls hide the bimodal nature of American politics, which makes them largely useless in understanding what is actually happening in the population.

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>Unlike some of the other stats, this one isn't broken down by party. But I would bet that almost all of this increase was among Republicans.

Be the change you want to see in the world.

The change I want to see is broad recognition that Republican leaders are leveraging latent racism for political gain, so that moderate voters turn away from the party and it is forced to abandon that cynical strategy, which is actively dividing the country.
I want a world where decisions are based in truth. And the truth is that the Republicans have given up on trying to stop their party members from being overtly racist and xenophobic.

Personally, I think some weird process of self-radicalization involving the newest mass media and a denial of reason and fear of change in racial demographics, has kicked in with the Republicans and they won’t be able to stop it internally; there are no lines of common decency where the swirling madness won’t push all the thoughtful people past. I believe the rest of the civic body will have to stop them using our power. Yes, science is real. no, there’s no big differences between ethnic groups. Yes, being racist fucks up society for a long time, let’s stop. Yes, women are human also. Yes, immigrants refresh and renew the US commitment to hard work leading to achievement and the US ability to respect, enjoy and combine all human cultures. We, the majority, will vote, organize to vote, and push this world view every day for a hundred years rather than slip back into authoritarian or racist past which was anti-science, anti-truth, and anti-virtue.

Look again. Their very own data doesn’t support your attempt to blame those darned racist conservatives.

The parent comment link allows you to view responses by political affiliation and answers by conservatives skew greatly to a more “positive” view of Asian Americans over the past 12 months.

Just a reminder to check your biases. Everything you don’t like isn’t caused by the other political party.

You're right, but you don't make a string claim or cite evidence, thus the downvotes. Here's the facts:

On the question of "Asian Americans as a group are more loyal to their country of origin than to the United States", Democrats experienced a 60% increase year over year in agreement (22=>35), whereas Republicans experienced only a 36% increase (24=>33).

On the question of "Asian Americans as a group are at least partly responsible for COVID-19", Democrats experienced a 135% increase year over year in agreement (10=>24), whereas Republicans experienced only a 91% increase (13=>25).

Now for my take on these facts:

I don't find either particularly concerning. There certainly are some Asian Americans who are more loyal to their country of origin than to the United States, and that ground truth number may or may not be accurately represented by these surveys in one or both years. There's no way to know from the information we are provided, and there's no reason to make a value judgement either way. (Is it "wrong" for someone to be more loyal to their home country?)

Regarding COVID, in my opinion Asian Americans as a group are absolutely at least partly responsible for COVID-19... but so is every other group! To claim that any group holds absolutely no responsibility of our collective handling of the global pandemic is absurd. We're all in this together.

Where are you seeing this? I don't see anywhere in the report where it breaks those two questions down by party.

Also worth observing that the report shows 35% of Republicans wouldn't be comfortable with an Asian American President, vs 20% of Democrats.

Try following the link in the original comment you replied to.
This link, right? https://www.staatus-index.org/

The screen that says "However, an increasing percentage of Americans in 2022 are questioning the loyalty of Asian Americans and blaming Asian Americans for the Covid-19 epidemic."? There's no drill-down there for me.

Update: ok, found it---it's not on the screen that shows the specific questions, you have to scroll down through the drop-down on the first screen.

> Just a reminder to check your biases. Everything you don’t like isn’t caused by the other political party.

You are correct. If I'd made the bet, I would have lost because the underlying data shows most of the increase in agreement on these two questions was among Democrats. (For those looking for the breakdown of the data, the first page has a dropdown with all of the questions and an option to filter by party affiliation.) Though the Democrats response on the COVID question add up to 102% for some reason, it doesn't materially change the result.