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by Broken_Hippo 1409 days ago
No, it really isn't. "Control your medication" might leave you dead if you are diabetic or leave you hearing voices if your meds control a psychiatric condition.

In the same vein, you don't really get a choice in most cancers. Sure, you can do things like never smoke tobacco, but you might just be an 8-year-old with bone cancer. And lots of other afflictions and diseases are similar in this manner, much like you probably won't be able to avoid whatever cold is circulating in your workplace.

And I've not seen any proof otherwise.

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Most patients with type-2 diabetes can reduce or even eliminate their need for medication through lifestyle changes.

https://www.virtahealth.com/research

Absolutely. The problem is that diabetes type 2 is a lifestyle induced condition. People (most not all) get type 2 because of unhealthy diet so sure you can eliminate the need for medication by eating healthy.

Insulin dependent diabetes is type 1. Eating healthy still helps but you will die without insulin injections no matter your diet

Type 1 exists, and often starts in childhood. Some of the folks with type 2 won't be able to control it with lifestyle changes, there is no evidence that you can cure it, and it has been pretty common knowledge that you have better results if you eat healthily.

Your link is an advertisement, however, and doesn't back up your claims. Sure, they cite research - 6 papers - but they were funded by Virta. [1] At least some of the research was done by cofounders.

[1] https://www.usnews.com/news/healthiest-communities/articles/...

The link backs up my claims. Apparently you didn't read the underlying research papers.

No one is claiming a cure for type-2 diabetes, or that it works for every single patient. So I think your comment was not made in good faith. However, dietary changes can put it into remission for many patients. This has to be a permanent lifestyle change; it's not something they can just do just temporarily to fix the underlying pathology.

I very highly doubt most of the folks are reading the research pages: I, like most folks here, am not a scientist, doctor, nor dietician. So I do have to look at other things to assess whether or not information is trustworthy before I take it at its word.

I'm not even saying that diet doesn't help. Neither is anyone else.

What I am saying is that your link is an advertisement for a paid service in the US, is done on a limited number of studies and some of those studies are done by a couple of the folks that founded the company. Not to mention that they funded the studies. These things actually make me doubt the entire premise for these links.

From what I can tell, they are basically pushing keto on diabetics. This particular diet program isn't a cure-all, nor does it perform better or have fewer risks than other diets. I don't doubt diet helps, I'm just doubting that this particular diet is something to push on others unless there is more research on this particular diet.