[jorjordandan]

I had a mushroom trip that made this all make sense (at the time). The gist of it was, there was never nothing. Nothing is a made up concept. It's deeply valuable, but there is no instance of any kind of nothing that actually exists. There is only "exists". The most basic form of existence is change. Even if there had been nothing, and something came from it, in order for something to come from it, there would first need to have been some change. So regardless of how it could have started, change has to be the first thing. But in my opinion, recursive cycles is a more likely explanation than a linear universe with a start and end that are both in 'nothing'. I'm posting this nonsense tongue in cheek but.. I don't think it's completely wrong.

[Galaxeblaffer]

My favorite cyclic theory so far is probably Roger Penrose's conformal cyclic cosmology. In essence the universe keeps expanding exponentially which in the end becomes equivalent to a new big bang since the universe at that point will loose all notions of scale due to their being no more particles to drive scale. A much better explanation is given here https://youtu.be/FVDJJVoTx7s

[bsedlm]

I agree 100%.

once upone a time I asked myself what the heck do we mean by 'nothing' when asking "why is there something rather than nothing?"?

from wondering that, I concluded the same thing you did. that nothing is a made up concept; and I agree, it's super useful and it's ideal instead of real.

later on, I started to ponder what the heck does 'everything' really mean, and for now I think that 'everything' is just as made up as 'nothing'. hence, 'everything' doesn't exist in the same way 'something' (anything) exist. it's also just a very valuable made up concept.

there is no instance of everything, it's also an assumption.

then again, maybe I got stuck in the trip

[greenonions]

Mushroom origins or no, I completely agree.

[EmilyHughes]

What you call change is the concept impermanence in buddhism. You had an insight into impermanence.

[pigtailgirl]

-- To further your point - The Tibetan Book of the Dead (1994) - Narrated by Leonard Cohen is excellent peek into the word of Bardo --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8ikDKL_zs

[jorjordandan]

Thanks listening now :)

[pigtailgirl]

-- curious if you enjoyed it? =) --

[93po]

A big chunk the posted article addresses this exact topic: https://alwaysasking.com/why-does-anything-exist/#A_Self-Exi...

[anthk]

Not the change, the information about the change itself predated the change.