[JackFr]

I’m all for accommodating disability.

But in this case an obvious solution might be to do what your manager suggests simply because he is your manager.

As a non-autistic person I don’t find it difficult to voice my concerns about a particular course of action and then do it anyway if that’s what the boss wants. (I realize the sticking point is “voice my concerns” — doing that in a manner that doesn’t come off as confrontational or undermining can be hard.)

[nibbleshifter]

> But in this case an obvious solution might be to do what your manager suggests simply because he is your manager

That is career suicide (unless you make sure to get it in writing every single time).

As a knowledge worker you are paid to not just be a yes man automaton, you are paid to evaluate and push back as needed.

[JackFr]

> That is career suicide (unless you make sure to get it in writing every single time).

Why would you ever expect your managers to trust us if you don't trust them?

[nibbleshifter]

Managers often make poorly planned out technical decisions that are in the best interest of their career, but not the business.

Like changing a framework for an already fully working product, just to have done it.

You don't want to end up holding the bag for that choice when they claim you said it would work when it invariably overruns.

[shlant]

> But in this case an obvious solution might be to do what your manager suggests simply because he is your manager.

I hope more Autistic and non-Autistic people don't put up with this kind of argument. I'm sure most people have an example of a manager making a technical decision (many times due to ego) and being wrong and then the engineering team has to clean up the mess. There should at least be room for discussion which in the example given, the manager does not seem to be interested in.

[JackFr]

> I'm sure most people have an example of a manager making a technical decision (many times due to ego) and being wrong

I'm sure most people have an example of making a technical decision (many times due to ego) and being wrong

[shlant]

the purpose of me making that point was "therefor, a manager shutting down discussion is not something that should just be accepted" not "managers are the only ones who are wrong"

[denton-scratch]

> I realize the sticking point is “voice my concerns”

But in an interaction between an engineer and a manager, anything less than voicing your concerns is an abdication of responsibility. If the manager switches off at the first expression of concern from an engineer, then I imagine that's a team that's bound to failure.

Jump ship.

[JackFr]

No one says the manager switches off. They may have a host of reasons, possibly non-technical, why they don't agree with you. It's certainly fair to ask what they, but the point is it's not a debating society. There needs to be some amount of trust that a manager is operating in good faith, on a rational basis, and while perhaps not an expert some degree of competence in the area.

[denton-scratch]

How can they not agree with you, if all you've done is ask one question (with three more questions left unasked)?