[paulmd]

A lot of people just blindly argue the absolute most negative possible stance period with NVIDIA, that they will never ever do anything positive and any positive stuff that happens doesn't matter at all because of reasons that are invented on the fly.

they open the kernel side? not good enough, they still have blobs (so does AMD) and the userland is still closed (which, so are parts of AMD's as well - the raytracing stuff is all behind closed licenses for example). They added adaptive sync support? Well, why don't they open up g-sync native!? Oh, they did that too? ....

it's similar to the anti-apple set that are just going to shit all over apple regardless of what happens. Apple publishes an API to make Asahi linux's job easier? Not good enough! apple is evil guys!

it's just so tedious and childish, like haha guys did you hear that linus gave NVIDIA the finger? that makes me laugh out loud guys!

[kadoban]

> lot of people just blindly argue the absolute most negative possible stance period with NVIDIA, that they will never ever do anything positive and any positive stuff that happens doesn't matter at all because of reasons that are invented on the fly.

I mean, it's been what, 30 years or so during which nvidia did nothing on this front until ~last year? How are you even judging absolutists vs not? There's been no small steps you could judge them by, right?

But ya, I'm _super_ pumped nvidia is heading in the right direction with this stuff, I hope they continue.

[moreaccountss]

The only childish thing here is what you wrote.

Nvidia's hostility to open source and Linux is well known. This is a company that signs code to prevent open source driver development. But now they want a piece of the sweet datacenter revenue, so they have to open up.

[izacus]

Calling a company that released native Linux drivers (even if they're not opensource) with full capabilities "hostile to Linux" is some massive obliviousness. They've been supporting their hardware on Linux as a platform for decades now which is more than almost all other manufacturers.

It's this dumbass hyperbole that really shows just how disconnected from reality a lot of OSS zealots are. Does having nVidia driver be closed source suck? Eyup. Is it "hostility towards Linux" on the levels of other manufacturers that don't even bother to bring up their hardware on the platform? Nope.

[michaelmrose]

I've been buying Nvidia hardware to use with Linux since 2003 since pragmatically it works well but honestly their efforts towards open source are mediocre and unworthy of meaningful praise. While their are only 3 major players in this class its worst in class by a mile.

The combo of hardware/software if using open source drivers isn't worth buying or using. I don't think its at all meaningful to talk about progress until they at least offer something anyone ought to bother using.

I mean if I ordered a nice steak and you served me a literal shoe I wouldn't praise you for remembering to also bring steak sauce.