[ChuckNorris89]

And how many other dozens of products did Google build then kill off due to failure? Similar to Intel.

[khitchdee]

Intel does not have a number 2. They only own x86. They have failed to diversify.

[__d]

They have _tried_ to diversify:

They have competitive NICs, although they don't seem to be maintaining the lead there they once had.

They bought competitive network switches. These have largely languished, in part because they sat on the IP and then targeted it at weird niches.

They bought Altera. I feel like it had lost some momentum vs. Xilinx, but with AMD acquiring the latter, it's probably going to end up a wash.

The AI chips are kinda too early to tell, but at least they're playing the game.

Overall, I think they have squandered the massive advantage they had in CPUs for the last 3 decades.

[touisteur]

Oh yeah I'm waiting for their 200G NICs while NVIDIA is ramping up connectx 7 with 400G on PCIe5...

The low end AI chips are a mess. Myriad-X can be used only through openvino, and they've been closing details about the internals... Keembay is... Years late?

Is there anything coming out of Intel these days?

And what happened to nervana systems, became plaidml then disappeared after bought by Intel? Maxas was really great and now, crickets.

Even profiling tools, which they used to be on top of, don't seem to work well on Linux w/ the TigerLake gpu. It's so painful to debug and program, they might as well have not put it in...

[khitchdee]

> Overall, I think ...

That's a reflection of their company culture. They're a bit stiff.

[ChuckNorris89]

>Intel does not have a number 2

Yeah they do, Intel has the FPGA division they bought from Altera. That's a huge business on its own.

And my point still stands: having great engineers is not enough for great execution. You need great leadership with a vision a-la Steve Jobs or Jensen Huang.