[andrewmcwatters]

I mean, how native are we talking? Cross-platform native? Or platform native? Platform native UIs require you to actually read things like the Apple HIG, or the Windows Design Guidelines, and then create language-specific bindings to those operating system controls.

If you don't actually care about creating platform native UIs, you'll always be creating something that is a second-class design while putting in first-class effort. Why?

Frankly, you're better off just learning the operating system platform native UI programming language and get over yourself if you want to create something that looks like it was actually designed for the OS you're using.

And really, it's immature and insulting to call languages insane. Suck it up, these are peoples' professions here. No one wants to read that.