[ghaff]

>I don't think anyone arguing for WFH is really advocating fully-remote for all

In general I think that's true.

However, the flip side is you have people who want to go into a 2019 office. And they're going in and finding a ghost town. And at least some of them think it's the responsibility of their coworkers to fix that even if they're getting their jobs done perfectly well from somewhere remote.

[lucideer]

> you have people who want to go into a 2019 office [...] some of them think it's the responsibility of their coworkers

100% believe these people do exist, but I've not met one. I'd love to go into a 2019 office, but I've accepted the impracticality of that expectation and so has anyone similarly-minded that I've encountered.

[ghaff]

Well, you see some people on this very thread. But I agree. Most reasonable people recognize that a 2019 office dynamic may be dead forever at many places. I expect that most accept that reality if they otherwise like the company. (I know a fair number of people in that category.) Or they seek out companies that are much more committed to people coming into an office.