[wowokay]

I think what they were saying is this company puts off snake oil vibes. It's like calling Microsoft a success in the game industry when they bought companies or products to position themselves as a leader of the industry when the argument can be made that they couldn't build it back up if it went under.

[kyawzazaw]

xBox is pretty successful, no? Is the ability to building it back if it went under the only test/indicator of a successful business operation?

[nickff]

You seem to be focused on software development as the only 'legitimate' avenue to building a company/business; if this is true, why? Are VCs 'illegitimate' for being unable to run the companies and develop the corresponding products they profit from? Are software developers 'snake oil' vibe-y for being unable to create the hardware they rely on?