[acoard]

> I think there's your answer. That's hard to do, and software mistakes cost a lot of $$$ and time to fix. You have to go into a dealership/service area to get any updates.

Do current BEVs require frequent updates to maintain off-the-lot functionality and drive-worthiness? Like in practice, if I bought a BMW BEV and ripped out any internet connectivity / only drove around in a faraday cage, would it break after 3mo (or 3yr) unless I took it into the dealership for a software update?

>Also, the vast majority of Tesla's customers are attracted to the idea that their car will continuously update itself and get better over time.

Yes, I think this is a selling point too. However it need not be a requirement for all BEVs. If switching to this model is prohibitive then it shouldn't be a roadblock.

[standyro]

I didn't update my Tesla for about a year and half.

It eventually complained with a custom message that I would completely lose cell access in the car (which powers navigation, etc) if I didn't run the v11 update.

I reluctantly updated because I know, and by that point they had fixed most of the UX issues that I had complaints about. The UI team at Tesla at least seems to listen to feedback from customers, which is more to say for bugs in any infotainment system that I've ever had in any other car I've owned.

[judge2020]

https://www.teslaownersonline.com/threads/software-build-v11...

Once AT&T 3G shuts down, chances are it won't be able to connect to the network due to how it logs on. While the AT&T site[0] says "will decommission our 3G networks on February 22, 2022", but it's actually been pretty slow with 3G still lingering in many places and others getting it turned off around the time they're working on 5G deployments utilizing the now-free spectrum[1,2]. They probably could've fixed this by updating V10 with only the modem changes but they want people on V11 more.

0: https://iotdevices.att.com/att-iot/3GSunset.aspx

1: https://redd.it/vwb7uu

2: https://redd.it/w777ez

[stetrain]

Connected navigation is a pretty big feature for EVs, ie trip navigation that plans your charging stops based on up-to-date list of charger locations and their current availability.

So you can get by without this using your phone nav etc. but you'll likely be missing some key info like how many chargers are in-use vs available, and triggering the car to precondition the battery for fast charging before arrival.