[yata69420]

I was in favor of aggressive lockdowns at the time, but I live in a part of the US that proudly does not lockdown or wear masks. I think we had 2 weeks of total "lockdown" when people were legitimately scared. We haven't had significantly more deaths per capita than other stricter parts of the country.

We now have examples from all around the globe. China's super strict approach seems like it sort of worked for a while, but even they had cases.

[drekk]

Really disingenuous to compare the US to China in this way as if they are comparable failures. We're talking about under a million cases and 5,000 deaths. In the US we had 91 million cases and over a million deaths. Especially embarrassing for the US to loudly proclaim how impossible it is to do anything in a country this size when China's mainland is about the same land area with 3x the population. China's "super strict approach" didn't "sort of work for awhile". If they had taken a US approach millions more people would be dead.

The US is 91 million of the 584 million cases identified so far. It's ~5% of the global population with pretty low density outside of, what, 3 cities? Truly embarrassing that one of the wealthiest G8 countries can't handle outbreaks of any sort — to the point that NY has identified hundreds of polio cases for the first time in a decade.

It's not going to be pretty if the US faces another outbreak of something that kills and cripples the way that polio did just a few generations ago. I'm not convinced the answer then won't be the same, except now instead of sacrificing grandma we can place anyone on the altar of capital.

[emkoemko]

are you really going to take CPP numbers as fact? and even right now they still locking cities down in authoritarian ways that is killing people.... their approach has not worked... they are still living in lock downs who knows what the real numbers will be

[quickthrower2]

Good point, better to compare US against Australia and NZ. The UK was sort of in between Australia and US in terms of lockeddown-ness.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality

Click on deaths per 100,000

Draw your own conclusions.

[emkoemko]

never said USA did well during pandemic... i mean didn't like 380,000 die just because they lacked health care in the USA? couldn't that also be a factor?