[bettysdiagnose]

>I urge anyone actually interested in understanding the subject to buy a CO2 meter and measure this concentration around the house, where you work, in your car, at friends and family homes, etc. You will be absolutely astounded when you learn that you, today, live in 600 to 1000 ppm (or more) CO2 air concentration. I own five different devices.

Your thinking sucks. If you honestly can't see the problem with your little experiment here then it really is a waste of time dealing with you. Only unthinking cult member here is you.

[robomartin]

I love the substance in your comment. Learned so much.

I am also impressed by your counterpoints to the published data and analysis. Deeply revealing in so many ways. Again, thank you.

Further to that, I am in awe of your analysis of the paper I linked. You know, where they authors say, quoting:

"At the start of RE<C, we had shared the attitude of many stalwart environmentalists: We felt that with steady improvements to today’s renewable energy technologies, our society could stave off catastrophic climate change. We now know that to be a false hope— but that doesn’t mean the planet is doomed."

and then, quoting, once again...

"Suppose for a moment that it had achieved the most extraordinary success possible, and that we had found cheap renewable energy technologies that could gradually replace all the world’s coal plants—a situation roughly equivalent to the energy innovation study’s best-case scenario. Even if that dream had come to pass, it still wouldn’t have solved climate change."

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Every single one of these discussions reveals just how intolerant factions have become. Nobody is open to anything because the KNOW what they've been told is the truth and that's that. This is indistinguishable from intolerant religious belief. A world where all ideas are sacred and unassailable isn't a place where progress can flourish.

Give it a couple of decades, maybe people will wake up and smell the horseshit for what it is. What's sad about this is that we are going to spend decades wasting money, resources and valuable talent on futile pursuits rather than on things that could actually help humanity.

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The other interesting thing is that everyone automatically assumes that questioning what we are being told is equivalent to climate change denial. This is NOT --AT ALL-- WHAT I AM SAYING. In fact, I go out of my way to explain that humanity has done this, how we've done it and more. And still, people go for straight destroying the messenger because they can't handle it.

It is OK to say "Look, this is real, but what you are telling me we need to do is questionable, and this is why...". But, no, we can't do that, because it is now a cult.