[lostsock]

The copy on the website is pretty damn clear[1]:

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Full Self-Driving Capability

All new Tesla cars have the hardware needed in the future for full self-driving in almost all circumstances. The system is designed to be able to conduct short and long distance trips with no action required by the person in the driver’s seat.

The future use of these features without supervision is dependent on achieving reliability far in excess of human drivers as demonstrated by billions of miles of experience, as well as regulatory approval, which may take longer in some jurisdictions. As these self-driving capabilities are introduced, your car will be continuously upgraded through over-the-air software updates.

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It never once says or implies Full Self Driving is available now. Tesla intends it to really be "full self driving", when it's ready and has regulatory approval.

[1] https://www.tesla.com/autopilot

[Dylan16807]

They also advertise "Full Self Driving Beta" as being available right now. An actual beta would be a hundred times closer in capability.

[lostsock]

While there are obviously cases that FSD beta can't currently handle well, there are countless YouTube videos where FSD Beta is able to do 20+ minute commutes with zero disengagements.

100 times more capable would be 2,000 minutes, or 33 hours. Do you really think the beta, which is an opt in closed program that you have to qualify for and has caveats and warnings, needs to be 100 times more capable before it's released?

[Dylan16807]

It doesn't have to be 100 times more capable. It has to be 100 times closer to full self driving before it's really a "beta" of full self driving.

As an analogy, let's say something is 30cm, and you want to get it to "almost a meter". If that's 95cm, then you need to get about 15 times closer. That means reducing the gap by a factor of 15. It doesn't mean you need 450cm.

Though I'd be fine with your time metric too. I do want to get to the point where 33 hours without disengagements is routine before "full self driving" is talked about as almost done. I wouldn't want to require that before it's released at all, I just want an accurate name applied.