[Sholmesy]

Review from Dave2D 4 months ago, addresses the crease & hinge on a pre-production unit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFGhvYLbBRE

I think it seems like a cool idea, 17" at 4:3 ratio is alot of screen real estate, at a 12.5" 16:9 footprint.

Lot of negativity in this comment section, personally not something I'm that interested in, but I am interested in people experimenting with the form factor.

[wakeupcall]

I think the design is brilliant.

Nice 4:3 ratio. This essentially doubles as a full screen you can put anywhere with a keyboard always at hand. That's how I use my laptop 99.9% of the time.

The microsoft book is already better than a regular clamshell in my eyes for versatility, but If you ignore the price for a moment (which brings the book to ridicolous costs), IMHO this design beats a clamshell design in versatility a 1000 times over, and the detachable screen design as well.

[csdvrx]

I have a X1 Fold Tablet, and it's the best device I've ever owned

I like it so much that I spent time to make it work great under Windows 11: check https://csdvrx.github.io/

[solarkraft]

... you need to manually fix it for Windows? Does it ship with Linux or something?

Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it, but what an incredible software shit show. Imagine spending millions on hardware R&D only to release a product that's unusable due to terrible software. Why do manufacturers keep doing this?

[csdvrx]

> Edit: Great read - and your your enthusiasm for the device is getting me interested in it

Just get one - it's hard to live without it now!!

> but what an incredible software shit show.

Microsoft didn't deliver the OS they were supposed to (bad) but Windows 11 is everything and more (good)

Intel... well, it's Intel. If you go into plane mode before suspend and play with the device manager to restart the device when the driver crashes or use one of my approaches or scripts, it works great!

[alexvoda]

I also avoided the Lenovo because of the many, especially software, 1st gen rough edges, but the (Surface Neo) form factor is very appealing. Part of that form factor is the included magnetic wireless keyboard. We actually had touch-enabled dual-screen keyboardless clamshells before.

[TheSpiceIsLife]

Does it work fine with Windows 10 Pro? I don't care for Windows 11 yet, only plan to upgrade when I need to and / or when the hardware is upgrade.

[ge96]

Do you have any thoughts with the ASUS vs. what you have?

Dang that's an info heavy page that you wrote haha.

[csdvrx]

Lenovo I trust. Asus, uh... not much on a 1st gen device

In any case, the design is essentially the same, and I care about the form factor. Anything else I can find a way to make it work (or make a way)

[leaflets2]

Why don't you trust Asus?

[vijucat]

iosevka is a great font. Thanks for the recommendation!

[dm319]

Might be nice to use at 17" with a 60% mechanical keyboard.

[layer8]

Just for comparison, this 17.3" 4:3 is the same height as 21.1" 16:9, and it has 185 DPI. If it was a bit larger and slightly higher DPI, I’d consider it as a main monitor for a desktop build. I’m still waiting for an OLED monitor in the 24-27" range with 200+ DPI.

[sneak]

It’s only 2560 by 1920.

[entropicdrifter]

Raw resolution matters a lot less than PPI and contrast/color quality, IMO

[solarkraft]

On a phone yes, on a "desktop" OS losing resolution often also means being able to display less stuff.

[sudosysgen]

In 2022 scaling mostly works.

[andai]

I have a 4K screen with Windows 10. Some apps look great, some have really blurry text, some have really tiny UIs (or a comical mix of tiny and normal sized). This last category includes much of Windows' own UI...

[brokenmachine]

Not in my experience.

[sovnade]

is that not enough for a 17"?

I don't have that many on my 27" desktop monitors and it's totally fine.

[elxr]

That's completely fine.

[Sholmesy]

Sorry, I should have clarified what I meant.

I meant that 4:3 17" is substantially more than a 16:9 17" monitor.

4:3 vs 16:9 for the same diagonal (17") results in 12% more area. a 16" MBP is already large, and is only 16:10, so 17" 4:3 is comparable to like 18/19" of work space in 16:9/10 world.

[me551ah]

Scaling settings matter a lot more than just resolution