[addicted]

My cousin’s Tesla, costing over 100k, is reliably unusable for half the year.

Everyone I know who owns a Tesla is using other cars a significant amount of time due to the repairs issue (they also break down a lot more).

However, the cheerleading leading up to the purchase, and the fact that no one else is talking about this publicly, leads many to not talk about it.

It’s way too much like a cult.

[GianFabien]

Owning a Tesla is like joining a cult. The sunk cost of having bought one and the loss of face after all the bragging leads many to carry on denying that they have bought the promises and ended up with a lemon.

Perhaps there is a opportunity in creating a 12-step program / detox.

I'm sticking with my 6 year old car. It goes where and when I want it to. No smart ass computer on wheels that thinks it knows better than me.

[Ekaros]

And I really think that it won't fly for those who don't make purchase from fandom. And that will at some point start to affect the consumer perception for general public.

[leobg]

Not sure what you’re talking about. I own an X and have no issues. Never experienced a breakdown. All service center activities I had were done within a couple of hours. Certainly never had to fall back on another car. We still own an ICE (a Mercedes), and that one is in service about three times as often as the Tesla.

[iancmceachern]

How many miles do you have on the X?

[leobg]

66k

[iancmceachern]

As a comparison data point - I have a 2013 Scuion/Toyota/Subaru that has 95k and has had no issues. I also have a big diesel F250 that bias 50k and also, no issues whatsoever so far (knock on wood). Before that inhad an F150 and put 220k on it before any issues arose, had a civic that was similar.

[leobg]

Not sure these are apples to apples comparisons. Model S, 3, X and Y are not only a new platform, but an entirely new category of vehicles, made by a company that has started from zero and has been scaling volume production aggressively. Building a thing well that has been produced in volume for more than a hundred years, by lots of companies, with an entire ecosystem of established suppliers, is quite another story.

[iancmceachern]

They are. My Scion was an entirely new platform as well, I did what you weren't supposed to do, buy one of the first 10k cars produced. It was a totally new drive train, engine, and platform at the time. I would argue that by the time the X came out it was no longer a new class of vehicle, many evs had been out for years prior to thr Xs release.

[simfree]

That's pretty low, even a poorly built Subaru will still be on its first head gasket, meanwhile a Fiat 500e will be above 85% battery health at 70k miles.

[brador]

Many Tesla owners also own Tesla stock.

[katkatkatkatket]

How could this be? They have so many fewer moving parts!

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[GianFabien]

It's not the mechanical parts that are the problem. It's the software. The Tesla owners are not only software beta-testers but also the crash test dummies.

[katkatkatkatket]

But software has zero moving parts! It must be so reliable.