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by gregstoll 1410 days ago
The author just wrote an article about this as well - https://dynomight.net/no-soap-radio/
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Some of the variations just had me in tears and I can‘t really explain why.

Edit: I guess it‘s the same formula as most jokes: There is some logic in the setup, and the punchline replaces it with a different logic or pattern. Only in this case, the original logic isn‘t common sense, but the expected pattern of each type of joke. A meta-joke in that regard. It really depends on you being blindsided, but immediately recognizing the new “logic“ at the punchline.

Yeah this is a meme in the modern internet sense, where a large portion of the humor comes from recognizing the format
A joke breaks expectations. Setup: "What kind of bear has no teeth?" Punchline: "A gummy bear" breaks the expectation you have trying to think of a type of animal bear.

Non-jokes or meta-jokes break the expectation but in an unusual way. "Why did the chicken cross the road?" punchline breaks your expectation of an broken expectation. You thought it was a joke, but it turned out to be a statement. The aristocrats joke turns out to be just a dirty story- the story is the "joke".

Memes are not non-jokes or meta jokes. Memes are refillable jokes in a known container. You see the picture, you know what the joke is. Just like a TV sitcom is storytelling/joketelling in a refillable container. You see the kooky friend character, you know how he/she is going to react.

The aristocrats joke happens to also be a refillable container (you can tell/retell it however you want), but that's not the part that makes it a non-joke.

"To get to the other side" has a double meaning (to die, perhaps by being hit by a car).

So the chicken joke is not necessarily an anti-joke.

I somehow went thirty-eight years in this life without realizing there was actually a double meaning behind that phrase.

Thank you for enlightening me.

There's also the meaning of side as in potatoes or rice.
Based on the ancient Chinese "No Soap, Smoke Signal" surrealist joke.