[PretzelPirate]

> all types of animal husbandry and meat acquisition, including hunting?

Clearly it’s cruel to kill an animal even through hunting. The animal doesn’t want to be shot/stabbed/etc…

[nradov]

And yet animals (even herbivores) kill other animals all the time. This concern over the cruelty of killing livestock for food is such a weird human conceit.

[hombre_fatal]

Well, humans have the choice. Likewise, pointing out that rape is common in the animal kingdom isn't very convincing license for humans to rape.

[drjasonharrison]

Or transported on noisy truck without food, water, or air heating/cooling, for many hours or days.